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[Custom Decor] Custom Decor System Needs Reform

Posted 2024-02-14 14:38:00
I've been told multiple times by other CD artists that Xylax is the only one who writes rejection messages. So if there are a handful of people approving CDs, then they're all wildly inconsistent, and Xylax as a rejection notif writer should at the very least be looking at approved CDs compared to ones getting rejected and see that inconsistency.
Shunkana
#110039

Posted 2024-02-14 14:39:36
I mean they already reject things all the time for not being in the "Wolvden style" so they can just ignore the "it's my style" commentary. It's not an excuse to not let us have an open dialogue with the people judging our art.
Shunkana
#110039

Posted 2024-02-14 14:50:20
I don't have much to say that I think hasn't been said already, but I feel like adding my two cents to the convo anyways.

It's extremely frustrating that all this CD info is left in the dark, esp for someone who loves making CD. My work may not be the best, but what gets me is that some things I can notice after the decor is accepted that Xylax (or whoever is reviewing) seemed to have missed. Other times, the explanation given to me is either kinda bs or really confusing to where I can't understand what is being asked of me to change.
This morning I rolled to rejection messages of my most recent decor recolors (Motherly Lighting is the decor series). I'll tell you I used the exact same layers for the 3 recolors as I did for the one currently accepted, so there shouldn't be a reason for them being rejected, right? They were rejected for having lineart of the wolf peeking out past the light outline. I asked some people I know how that could be, and they mentioned that it is harder to notice with the accepted one vs my three recolors, which is annoying, but understandable. But that begs the question, how much is Xylax or these reviewers paying attention to these CD? If my Motherly Lighting CD can be accepted with this small error, then how are slight pixelation and tiny bits of leaking color noticed?
The inconsistency really bothers me, esp since some of my decors I realize could be so much better with minor adjustments, yet they were accepted as is. Even if I'm a 'favored' person for CD under theory, I still don't like it because of the inconsistency, and also to see me get decor responses so quickly while other friends of mine have been waiting months to get any response for their decors. And some of the decors I see get rejected bother me too. Shunk creates some awesome CD, much better than where my skills are currently, and yet theirs are rejected? It makes no sense, and I feel bad to have this 'good luck' with my decors while others with better skill and ideas struggle so much.

Ig my two cents turned a bit more into a rant, but I think my point is still there ^^'. It's bothersome and upsetting, to say the least, and all else I can say is I wish luck to all the CD artists out there. CD is tough to do, and already quite costly without even considering the time, effort, blood, and tears put into the CD made. Anyways, sorry for my long message haha, and good luck to you all <3.

♰Vampire Mama♰
#25702

Posted 2024-02-14 15:27:23
I wouldn't say my skills are necessarily any better than other CD artists, but I appreciate the sentiment 💕
Shunkana
#110039

Posted 2024-02-17 20:34:08
Just for the sake of clarity, it was never my intention to offend or hurt anyone's feelings while pointing out inconsistencies in what gets approved/rejected. No one criticizing the Custom Decor system for its inconsistencies has called out any specific decors and no one has called out any specific names. I'm sincerely sorry to those who have felt it necessary to block me because of this thread. I am not trying to be a cruel or unkind person. I simply wish to understand why some work is accepted with a lack of rendering, and other work is rejected despite careful rendering and attention to detail. It was not meant to be personal knock towards anyone and I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

mercurie
#35270

Posted 2024-02-17 21:52:45
I don't think anyone should be offended, having consistent rules will benefit both senior artists and beginners

⌘Tallbarr⌘
#29379

Posted 2024-02-17 22:33:24
I specifically didn't name any names of artists or decors because I'm not trying to drag anyone.  We are all learning and are all at different levels of skill and experience.
That being said, I know I came into this thread with my most recent comments in a very angry state and said some harsh things about the inconsistencies of approved/rejected CDs and I do apologize if someone assumed that I was speaking about them specifically and had their feelings hurt.  That wasn't my intention and I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad about their art, especially since I personally know how much that sucks given my recent struggles with having my art relentlessly picked apart by whoever is approving/rejecting CDs.
Shunkana
#110039

Posted 2024-02-17 22:33:41
What you said wasn't offensive at all imo. If you pointed out individual CD's then it'd be quite a bit different.
Blocking tends to happen regardless of what you say sometimes, don't worry about it <3

8 Point Buck
#113195

Posted 2024-02-17 22:57:27
Yea, it wasn't my most shining moment though so I just wanted to clarify that I didn't mean to offend anyone in my anger so I hope I have a chance to sort of... redeem myself to other artists who may stumble upon this thread and see that and know that I'm not trying to be an asshole towards any other CD artist, I'm just frustrated with the current state of things.
Shunkana
#110039

Posted 2024-02-19 09:15:12 (edited)
I fully and wholly support an overhaul regarding the custom decor review process in Wolvden. Full disclosure, I am speaking purely from my observations of others' experiences in creation of CD.

In order to foster a constructively critical, creative, and objectively fair experience when offering a game mechanic such as CD in Wolvden, it's absolutely imperative to have clear guidelines for players to navigate the process. It is already incredibly daunting to learn how to create art, while learning layers and other nuances of the Wolvden format, on top of having to match and embody the game's art style. When there are very obvious inconsistencies between submission decisions, this absolutely will bring frustration and ultimately clashes between those in the artist community.

I do not think the current system fully enables our wonderful artists in Wolvden. Either shore-up the guidelines or relax them. Enable creators to have a means to contacting game artists to regarding decisions. All of this is just creating unnecessary animosity and frankly, unacceptable nastiness between players for reasons that escape me.

Why is there so much hate being directed at OP for wanting the game to be improved? We should all be encouraging continued progress for the development of this game that we all obviously find enjoyment in!
Ninkasi
#67111

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