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Lessen the cooldown for new pair bonds

Lessen the cooldown for new pair bonds
Posted 2021-04-04 21:44:06

I'm really enjoying being able to pair my wolves together and potentially being able to get pups from that pairing. However, I think the cool-down period for making a new pair bond after a pair bond is broken is way too long. I do agree that a cool-down is needed so that people aren't just breaking and forming pairbonds frivolously, but 30 rollovers is ridiculous. So, I have 2 suggestions for this.

1. I suggest that the cool-down period be shortened to 7 rollovers. This way, you still have to wait to make a new pairbond, but its not a ridiculous amount of time.

2. If the pairbond is broken because one of the wolves dies, lessen the amount of time it takes for the cool-down. There still should be a cool-down because the wolf would be grieving, but it can be allowed to move on to a new bond.


AmericanWerewolf
#3880

Posted 2021-04-04 21:46:22 (edited)

I agree! by the time the cool down is up, the wolves have aged more than a year, and the female loses (give or take) 4, or half of her heats which is super unfortunate and inconvenient


rαıdεη
#38230

Posted 2021-04-04 21:58:13

No support, pair bond breedings are intended to be pretty exclusive and something that isn't able to be spammed to pump out hundreds of pups. We already have a pup market issue and lowering the pair-bond to get even more pups out of a wolf will only exacerbate things further. From a balancing perspective, things are fine as they are with pair bonds.


fey
#2444

Posted 2021-04-04 22:11:10

This! I recently forgot to feed a certain wolf of mine (who I had JUST pairbonded to another that had recently came off cooldown) and when she left it broke the bond. Now I have to wait about a month just to have them make some pretty pups together.

yellhound
#31615

Posted 2021-04-05 02:27:16

When this gets implemented, I can imagine how I will make the pair bond cooldown like it didn't exist. I literally would arrange a breeding in pair bond and break the bond immediately. By the time the breeding cooldown passes, the pair bond cooldown would be over long time before. Why would I have to do studding or use my breeding male if the female could just breed with any other male after the longer cooldown passes? Why would any other player stud? Why would we pay for studding if we could just leave studs alone, isolating from them and doing all the breeding with our own wolves for no additional time penalty that the current pair bond cooldown determines? During the breeding cooldown with the new pair bond cooldown, I could set the male to arrange breeding with 2 other females before returning to the first female.

Shortened cooldown only upon death? Any pay2win feature supporters? You can retire to kill for SC. Rich players could just retire their male after breeding in pair bond to arrange females with aforementioned experiences while poor players would sulk in the old system.


Dżanek
#24018

Posted 2021-05-15 21:12:21 (edited)

Support! My friend and I were just talking about this. The cooldown is WAY too long. Sometimes you regret your decision and want to change the pair bond but now you gotta wait all this time. By the time it's over you have to remember what the heck you were doing in the first place. Lol 

A lot of people might argue that there's a pup population problem with the market, as stated above, but that's wolvden. Have you seen lioden? It's FILLED with cubs you don't care to look at. I think breeding cooldowns are enough without a huge pairbond cooldown too.

Plus!- The breeding cooldown doesn't go away just because the pair bond cooldown lessens. So even if she was pair bonded to multiple wolves in a short amount of time, its not like she got put into heat more than she was already going to be in. And if there's still a cooldown for that pair bond, people will breed her to someone else and let her breed to her actual pair bond NEXT time. So the pup population thing is a rather pointless argument to me since people will breed when they wanna breed her. Not just because she can't breed RIGHT NOW to her pair bond. 

TLTR; A lot of people's arguments when I hear talk about pairbond cooldowns are the "pup population" argument. But the one thing stopping a female from breeding is her own breeding cooldown. Sure she may not be able to breed to her pairbond RIGHT NOW but she can still be bred when in heat. So lessening the pairbond cooldown does not effect the pup population at all. Her breeding cooldown does. So that argument is quite invalid, atleast for me.



† Salem Trials †
#6510

Posted 2021-05-15 21:56:46

i support. 

i do agree the cool down for pair bonding should be less. 

30 rollovers is a long time to wait to pair bond the wolves again. 


magicwhitewolf
#25645

Posted 2021-05-15 21:58:37

Valkyrae's got some good points. Support, btw. One of the first pair bonds I made I paired a wolf with his cousin. Once I realized, I felt like an idiot and then felt worse cuz I had to wait a whole month before I could do anything (honestly, dude never ended up in a pair bond afterwords, since I just kinda forgot about that). Plus the pup population and market oversaturation need to be taken care of separately, lowering the cooldown for pair bonds isn't going to change that. If people want to breed their female wolves regardless of whether they're pair bonded or not.

Plus, people have to be picky with their pair bond breedings anyway. The number you get per month is limited. With a 50+ wolf pack size, I only get 7 breedings. Even though I've got 11 pair bonds at the moment, I can't breed them all. I need to think and choose the ones I want. Lowering the cooldown doesn't affect this in the lightest.


Food?
#20022

Posted 2021-05-16 11:19:56 (edited)

After reading more arguments others have brought up against this, I'm changing my stance to no support.


Gringe
#3594

Posted 2021-05-16 11:30:01

No support. Perhaps the bond-cooldown after one member dies should be shortened, but definitely not the manually-broken ones.


Gniwolf
#11158

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