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Combo/ New Tier Breeding Mechanics

Posted 2022-09-05 14:19:28
i absolutely love this idea, you explained it extremely well too, definitely support!

Natsume
#72212

Posted 2022-11-11 14:05:09 (edited)
This whole idea sounds to me like fixing all the mistakes that's been made so far regarding the breeding system into this new brand tier.

Dżanek
#24018

Posted 2022-11-11 14:54:35
It's not so much fixing as in adding a new actually  breed only combo mechanic that isn't allowed into the chase pool and more of a variety of bases that are combo only like how certain marking colors are like auburn which is black and red etc and allow more in-depth breeding quality over quantity regarding to mass breeding and chasing into the chase pool  but I understand what you are saying and trying to convey here but this mechanic wouldn't fix everything but definitely will help with the some things that tends to be a problem if a over hype

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#1428

Posted 2023-05-03 17:23:29
I support the combo base part of this suggestion. I breed combo bases on Lioden. They are fairly hard to obtain. It would be fun to have some combo bases here as well.

I don't support having them not go into chased pool though.
Snowcat13 🌞
#3716

Posted 2023-05-13 01:21:59
i support.

though i am on the fence about them not being allowed into the chase pool. if the percentage to breeding the same base genetics (t1,2,3) to a t4 and popping out the same t4 base as it's parent should be lower than the chance of breeding the same base t3s, that way it stays rare, and that should also apply to breeding x base to y base and popping out t4 combo base. if it stays rare enough by having very low pass rates then i don't see the issue of it going into the chase pool as there wouldn't be much getting through then anyways.

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#49375

Posted 2023-05-20 16:35:46 (edited)
I actually really like this idea! The market is crazy and everything is losing value by a lot- or gaining it by too much. I remember when I first joined and piebalds going for 5 GC were cheap. Now, most pies go for 250-500 SC. And don't even get me started on the ridiculous T3 value decrease!! If there was a rarer tier, then the market would stabilize a little bit. I also really like the idea of trying to breed new bases!
I also hate trying to breed a specific base by having to find suitable wolves, yadda yadda. I think doing something like this would make breeding more fun!
Like, instead of having to find another Mojave for my Mojave, I could buy a Glaucous and possibly get Dusk!
(Mojave [Warm Medium III] x Glaucous [Cool Light I] = Dusk [Warm Light IIII])

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#115961

Posted 2023-06-27 00:13:31
Honestly I agree with everything except the cannot find in explore part. G3+s are considered too high gen. Imagine if a person gets a g5 t4. Although the base might be special, people don't buy that easily. If a g1 can be found, then at least they can chase the wolf hoping that someone can catch it and give it back to them. Without this incentive, higher-gen t4s would only be a dilemma. Adding on to that, most t3s are breed only, so your t4 is only a non-chasable t3 version....

All this is just my opinion, though I did click support. Thanks for suggesting this and hope you can look at my response
Styx [SemiHaitus]
#95159

Posted 2023-07-18 15:50:44
I'm not super confident with this idea.

A major concern is that by calling this a T4, it suggests that this breeding could fail to a T3, which will inherently complicate things. This would still mean that T3s are preferred and quite frankly if it needs a T1 or T2 base, you can pretty easily mass breed those. I also worry that now having a T4 will be more confusing and much harder for newer players to get into it with how specific this idea is.
Sub note on this, It's also important to note that these bases would have to be significant since even now there are T3 bases that are very clearly considered bottom tier amongst the community. People can say they want this specific color for a base, but when it comes to it a lot of the less common colors are quickly dismissed after being in the game for a short while.

Additionally, I don't see this becoming much different than how muties work. Sure you can't find a gen1 Albino or Mela, but you can find a gen1 wolf that could create that. If these are gonna be specific T1 base pairings, then you can easily chase those T1s, breed them once found and bam, gen2 special based wolf instead of gen5 or something. Still, even if this is a breed only base, you will always notice that gen2-5 sell while anything after that will pretty much just rot.

While I personally, find the idea of them not being able to enter the chase pool quite upsetting, and I'm certain that it's going to upset a lot of R&C breeders, and I'm sure it's going to be quite annoying to be finding all of these average, otherwise useless, wolves filling the pool, I'm going to put that off to the side as a second worry. Though I would really prefer that what can't enter the chased pool remains to 'unwanted' wolves.



Looking over the replies to this, I worry this idea is way too close to how Lioden's genetics work. Granted, I don't play Lioden, however, the mods have been very clear with the fact that they do not want Wolvden to be Lioden. I have a feeling that this idea will need MAJOR revamping if you want it to be included.

Hollow Howls
#12130

Posted 2023-07-18 17:01:43
I see your argument  but you have forgotten pass rates my friend, the same way we don't rely on mass breeding with special bases even tho they can throw TIII is that getting a TIII from a TII x special is very low chance and lower to get a special base. T4s yes would probably throw down TIIIs but would have smaller rates than that of a TII x TIII pairing. T4 would act more like special in regards of passing on that you must have a combo base or the correct combo pair to create that said individual combo base. Pass rates are the most important thing we can have when it comes to a stable and balance game.

It is similar to muties but the difference is that it's a base combo, a Specfic base x specific base and there will be diffrent combos to choose from these bases if done right by the dev team would be a beautiful look with a mixture of the two bases in a stunning way.

As for the r/c community, call me harsh but I don't see why everything needs to become a g1 why can't we have a base where it can't just be over bred and easily chased by numbers to become Gen 1s. This isn't a r/c only game and to be honest the r/c community is actually holding the game back in more than a couple ways. We don't need to have everything so easy as a Gen 1, with this kind set we will never move passed this Gen 1 hype that has overtaken Majority if the game. You have TIIIs and fancy raffle eyes and markings that can be found even if it's rare oocurance all it takes is enough wolves being chased to flood the markets with Gen 1 supers. That defeats the purpose of a true breed only genetics that doesn't revolve around muties and stats .

As for the lioden similarity's nothing needs to be changed actually! Combo bases may be a popular thing in lioden but if you haven't noticed we already have many lioden like features like pies which are the exact same thing as the pies on lioden, the ability to obtain and get lethals is a similar subject let alone the whole explore is just a revamp of the lioden explore. I don't think combo bases especially given a few tweaks would ever make this game a lioden clone. Especially if we remove the ability to find it in the chase pool. That in itself is a step difference than lioden.

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#1428

Posted 2023-07-26 22:48:33
I love the idea. The game is getting boring so  I will just do my own wolvlocke challenge while waiting for devs to introduce something worth grinding hard other than exploring just to get chased TIIs and TIIIs.
Cheylla
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