Traded Puppy Survival Grace Period

@HollowWorld7 I think people would just partner with friends to use that as a storage system to get around aging and pack space limitations and it would still be abused.

Support! People should not be penalized because of improper pup care from sellers, especially people who have been taking proper care of their own pups.

I also support this. An offer I made was accepted last night and the pup's survival chance dipped to 0 for circumstances that weren't my fault. Even with a sitter now, it's not looking great, and the pup wasn't exactly cheap by my poor-as-dirt standards. Even just pausing the penalty for the pup's first RO after a purchase could help a lot.

Fully support. I unfortunately have had a puppy die immediately after buying them. It was incredibly disheartening and now I’ve learned to check survival rate along with everything else when shopping for pups.

I think a survival guarantee for the first rollover IF they don't have a pupsitter would work really well! I'm in the UK so rollover happens at 7am, which means any trades I do before bed at midnight will be seen after rollover.

Thankfully I haven't had this happen yet but it would be very easy for me to lose a puppy due to that rollover! In fact it nearly happened when I was traded back my wolf from a traditional breeding - if I hadn't happened to be up at 3am then she would've had her pups unprotected and they could've died (and since they are potential mute carriers that's a LOT of value down the drain!)

Support-ish. I'm worried this could be abused even with limits such as a cooldown.

I agree with the idea that you should be able to set a pupsitter when you make an offer to buy a pup, so that it won't be left stranded before the rollover.

It would be nice if after you make an offer on a pup, or buy out a pup, you'd get a warning notification if the pup's survival chances are below 100%. That's easy to miss. I almost lost two expensive pups that way as an inexperienced user.

Hm, I like this idea as yes if the person accepts the offer right before rollover like that and say you're not online to assign a sitter / feed & play with it that pup is very likely to parish. However Im unsure of how long this grace period should last, should it be 2hrs before rollover since the general cooldown for wolves is 2hrs?

I also posted a suggestion to not allow users to post pups under 40% surivial chance to the tc and to automatically remove pups when they go under 40% surival, see here

As theres not always something we can do to save pups that have an extremely low surivial chance even if we can assign sitters, feed & play with the pup

Hey so, I've already supported this but I'm doing it again. I had just bought this https://www.wolvden.com/dynasty/wolf/122857 mojave pup for 95gc 3 and a half hours before rollover. I had dinner right after I bought it and immediately had to go feed my horses. Then I had to help a friend with her horses, and I didn't get home until 1am.

I didn't put the pup on a pupsitter, I didn't have the time, and that's on me. But the pup had 72% survival chance without the pupsitter and it still died. I just wasted 95gc because there's no sort of "traded pup survival buffer". This is the third time that I have bought a traded wolf and had it die on me- I had even protected the other two with pupsitters, but their former owners let them get so low it didn't matter even if they were the only ones with pupsitter protection.

I cannot express how frustrated I am right now. I hope there is something in the works about this because it's very discouraging and is, quite frankly, a pain in the ass. Traded pups should have a 24 hour trade buffer, or just a roll over buffer. 

Support! I haven't personally had an issue with this because I try to avoid buying new pups, but I've seen quite a few people have troubles with it.

If the idea of people abusing the feature is too troubling, maybe it could be set up so that the buyer has the option of paying a small fee to guarantee the pup won't die/leave in the first RO - nothing too expensive, just enough to hopefully deter people from misusing it? I personally don't think the idea of a few people using it for personal benefit is terrible, but that could be a way to solve that "problem" I suppose

I would rather see a warning about the pup's survival rate being below a certain percent when trying to buy, so that the buyer knows there is a risk. However I do see the point of people who have had their offer accepted and not had a chance to put them with a pupsitter, so I would not mind seeing a boost to survival rate but not a guarantee that the pup can't die.

If buyers see that the pups have low survival chances, this will create more incentive for sellers to care for their pups instead of ignoring them. You can't mass-breed and sell if people won't buy your fodder puppies because they're about to die.

Editing to add: I started thinking about the falling survival while the offer sits for multiple days, and thought it could be nice to get a notification for Lowered Survival of puppies you have offers on. If you see that the survival rate has fallen since you placed your offer, you are more likely to be able to cancel it (assuming you log on daily). This at least gives buyers some warning. I would rather see something that changes behavior of irresponsible sellers than something that just flat guarantees survival.