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Combo/ New Tier Breeding Mechanics

Combo/ New Tier Breeding Mechanics
Posted 2022-04-17 17:43:27 (edited)

Suggestion


What if we had Combo/new tier Base breeding mechanic? I would like to suggest a new tier maybe called T4 or somthing fancy that allows for Specfic Combos to be bred with certain wolves like a TI {Specfic base only} x Special {Specfic base only} would lead to a low outcome of said "T4" but here is the catch for a mechanic that prevents said T4 from entering the chase pool meaning you can't find a G1 "T4".  But you can still chase the wolf if you really need to but they just won't be ever found as a chase.

why Suggest?


I feel like having a mechanic that allows the use for TIs and TIIs while preventng it from entering the chase pool would allow more studs to have a opportunity and some more balance to all these fancy G1 TIIIs hypes and allow some more in-depth breeding back With a more Interesting breeding challenge and decision making upon the different play styles. We already have Combo Markings but those tend to be not look at as much since they can pop up in Rmas and Shuffles a lot.

Coding Difficulty?



Coding for the new tier would be a little hard but I feel "not a code expert" like the preventing of the wolf with that base from entering the chase pool if it been chased would be easy enough since it happens to adols and Pups if you chase them before they are adults but that is based upon a guesstimate of what little I know.

Pros/Con?



I believe the pros would be a slightly more stable Stud market, the use of lower tiers that were once though of as throwable and some rare wolves that would stay rare-ish due to it being unable to be in the chase pool and some more diversity to breedings.

The cons would be the amount of coding, reworking, Add more to learn and % calculating as well as determining how to implement the mechanic.


Major Pro/Con Points from Other Players



Here I will list any major points other have pointed out that could make this suggestion good or bad!

Major Con: Confusion in players
but this can be fixed with guides and Experience

Major concern?: Can't Chase the Wolf?
But you can chase them they just won't be put into the Chase pool that what I mean by wipe.

Major Pro (from chat): Allow Owners of Special Females breed to lower costing studs
I feel like prices would be still lower even if they are raised a tad just because lower tiers are more common and would allow competitors and player demand settle the price even for somthing as rare as a "T4"


⛧🖤 ꫝꪖᦔꪊక𓆏 Cain Simp🕷
#1428

Posted 2022-04-17 18:08:09
Support ^^
I think this would help the breeding market a lot! (You already pointed that out but I'm just restating it since it's true)


Pros
~Would help the stud market a lot!
~More possibilities of bases
~This goes a bit more with the one above, but more possibilities for unique pups!


Cons
~Since there's no such thing as a gen 1 T4 wolf, how would you get a T4? Would it just randomly come in a litter, like the lethal mutations? Or is there a way to find it in explore?
~Collectors of bases have to collect a ton new bases (and people like me who have an all T3s den might want to switch to an all T4s den)
~The fact that a T4 can't be chased would be very bewildering to newbies. What if they don't want to chase a T4 for R&C? What if they just wanna chase them because they don't want to own the wolf anymore, and there's no option to chase? Very confusing.




Hopefully this information helps you! ^^

🦊Skulk, Leash & Earth🦊
#46971

Posted 2022-04-17 18:10:28 (edited)
The whole point of combos is that use certain 2 wolves this is example not suggesting but like

Magnolia only  x air glow only  = low probability of Dawn

But you do make good point with newbies but it's shouldnt be that hard to understand that this breed only tier is breed only and that finding it in explore would just lead to the TIII hype again

Edit: also you can chase them but they would just never be in the chase pool ever

Edit: also fixed the confusion and added points

⛧🖤 ꫝꪖᦔꪊక𓆏 Cain Simp🕷
#1428

Posted 2022-04-17 18:17:16
Ahh, that makes more sense now. Thanks for clearing it up, Hadus.



But yeah, if I were a newbie and I got a T4 I would be like, "Ugh, why can't I boot out this wolf I own named Dream? I took out the Pairbond and the pupsitter role and everything!" And then people would have to be reassuring like, "Oh, Dream can't be chased since they're a T4." And I would be like WHATTT???


And then imagine people just explaining this to chat on the daily.. it would take way too long and definitely a hard thing to grasp.

🦊Skulk, Leash & Earth🦊
#46971

Posted 2022-04-17 18:19:04
Yeah I can understand how that would be a problem but no I just ment that if you chase them then they won't be found in the chase pool or ever as a Gen 1 wolf

⛧🖤 ꫝꪖᦔꪊక𓆏 Cain Simp🕷
#1428

Posted 2022-04-17 18:21:33
OHHH...


That makes more more sense now. So if you chase a wolf, it can't be found in explore. Thanks again!

🦊Skulk, Leash & Earth🦊
#46971

Posted 2022-04-26 16:09:34
I like the idea of breed only T1/T2 bases & nbw bases being part of this, of  course this would mean longer lineages but would for sure make having a T4 even more rewarding especially if that wolf has good stats for its generation.
This also helps incentivize stat breeders when they get to those longer generation statted wolves.

Also like the idea of having them stay breed only but not allowing them into the chased pool like mutations.

🧊IceOrthrus🧊
#15164

Posted 2022-05-01 01:54:31
I'd love to see some breed only bases (and markings) that are truly breed only, and that wolves with those bases (and/or markings) are not let into the chased pool.
Right now breeding projects on WD feels kinda pointless, since every base and marking can be found on a chased wolf.
Eelai
#1355

Posted 2022-05-01 02:36:44
I support as I really like the idea of using T1 wolves more often, Imo T1's are beautiful but just aren't getting the recognition they deserve >:(

🐀Slumbering_Opo🐀
#65778

Posted 2022-05-01 14:10:46
I hope this is OK with the owner but just adding a link to another forum that loves T1s and T2s link

🦊Skulk, Leash & Earth🦊
#46971

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