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Help me pick a new breeding male?

Help me pick a new breeding male?
Posted 2022-02-09 14:37:29
#659186
Hi there! My fellow Togo here is retiring in a week, and while I have some prospects I'm happy with for replacing him, I'm not at all sure about what decision(s) I want to make! I'd love people's inputs

Please feel free to look through my pack, but I'll put who I'm most considering here. I'm split between Pine and Bees.

Pine is an NBW Serpentine with triple Fern, white eyes, and four marks altogether, one of which is Ducat Merle (ignore that they haven't been sex-changed yet).

Bees is a G2 Tombac with four black markings and ice eyes. He's not an NBW, but he's the product of a now-retired pairbond who look to have about ten offspring living. 

I've chosen these two because they're my highest-tier, lowest-generation woofs, but I also have a G3 Losna and a double merle T2 NBW.

Any and all input would be hugely appreciated. Thank you
Gray
#873
Posted 2022-02-10 00:57:18
#659535
Wow, they're polar opposites appearance wise! I would personally prefer Pine, BUT I think Bees would be easier to stud out with how unique his appearance is, and his base is rarer.
🪴🌙Moon🌙🪴
#29869
Posted 2022-02-10 20:56:55
#660530
I slightly prefer the look of Pine (despite not being a merle fan) but I can definitely see the appeal of Bees. Bees has a rarer base and I don't think being a G2 from a private line would deter many people, if at all. A lot of people also like super bold wolves, too. I'm going to be entirely unhelpful here and say, either one is a good choice.
Xeva
#16394
Posted 2022-02-10 21:19:25
#660537
Both are very good choices! I'll second what Zeva said in that I don't care for merle, but I think Pine looks really cool with it! Bees, being a Tombac, naturally pops, especially with the markings. Right now, there are fewer Tombac studs than there are Serpentine  studs, and I personally would rather have a Tombac over a Serpentine. So my choice would be Bees.

And while I'm here, I should mention that I have one of Bees's siblings! This is Ballad, who came from that pairbond's previous litter (I sold the owner a NBW Tombac I befriended and as part of the deal, I would get a Piasa pup from the pairbond). I've since customized her to make her very stripey, but as soon as I saw Bees I knew his look was familiar.
Food?
#20022
Posted 2022-02-10 21:31:03
#660541
Your link to the g3 losna is broken, but is it Lovell? Personally I would prefer Lovell to either Pine or Bees because:
- Pine, being an NBW, is going to be relatively low-stat by stud standards all his life (under 1000) unless you make him a lead and do a lot of bonus stat grinding.
- Bees is also fairly low-stat, and (just my personal preference) I'm not a fan of black marks on tombac - they look good on him at 100%, but will probably come out lower opacity on pups and look dirty/muddy.
- Lovell is higher stat, and losna is one of my fav bases (generally my go-to when I'm not trying for a particular breeding outcome). Although he's g3, none of his parents are related to anyone in my pack, and they're not big-name enough to turn me off studding to him.
Lionel
#34199
Posted 2022-02-10 21:49:47
#660545
Thank you everyone for your thoughts! I'm really appreciating them. :D

Yes, sorry - Lovell is the one the broken link goes to. Also, just today, I got my first-ever chased NBW in Explore! Here they are - a Wulfenite with five markings, nothing super-special, but pretty cute, especially with some opacity adjustments (in my opinion).

Wulfenite is a more common base than either Serp or Tombac, though, which does make me

cough cough if you can't tell I'm terrible at decision making ... Togo has been my lead since early access dflgjdklgfd
Gray
#873
Posted 2022-02-10 21:58:06
#660549
Congrats on the Wulf! I'm not sure how in-demand Wulfenite is, but there are only 2 pages of Wulf studs (and there's 2 pages of Serp studs, and just over a page of Tombac studs). I was actually having trouble finding a Wulf stud for one of my females the other day. However, that stat roll is an oomph. I do think he's a valid option though, if you're willing to work on stats a bit hardcore.

Again, imo, any of the 3 would work!
Xeva
#16394
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