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The First Page (Join our new clan!)

The First Page (Join our new clan!)
Posted 2022-01-08 12:03:42 (edited)

ᴛʜᴇ ꜰɪʀꜱᴛ ᴘᴀɢᴇ

A clan for people who are tolerant of far back common ancestry.


Inbreeding has no effect on gameplay whatsoever, and yet the total avoidance of it has become the core of Wolvden's wolf economy. Wolves depreciate in value to almost nothing as soon as generation 5 in order to accommodate the market that says wolves with inbreeding, even several pages into their lineage from separate parent's lines, are worthless. This belief affects every wolf based market- T3s, ELFs, marks, carriers, studding, all of it, because whatever your wolf has in its favor, if it isn't G4 or lower you can kiss the value of the work that went into breeding that wolf goodbye.

I'm starting this clan with the intent of gathering together a group of players who don't care so much about inbreeding off of the first page, up to their wolf's great grandparents. I'm doing this in order to create a more viable market for players like us, so that we don't have to conform to the unnecessarily strict inbreeding limits that other players impose upon themselves, because right within this clan there will be people who are willing and perhaps even relieved to be able to buy wolves without checking every single headache-inducing page of their lineage, or who are willing to use higher gen studs because there would be a market for those pups to potentially go into.

My goal is to ultimately relax the general opinion on inbreeding so that we can have wolves with insanely long and full lineages, and we can breed more easily for high stats, raffle marks in different slots, and using breeding to create our dream wolves rather than hoping we run into a Chased with all the genetics we want but can't use items to apply and then shelling out tons of GC to make a wolf who's grandpups will be worthless regardless of how pretty or rare or strong they are.

If you'd like to see that same kind of change in Wolvden, please join our clan, and we'll take the first steps towards a more fulfilling WD experience together!

Wicked One (TFP Leader)
#42740

Posted 2022-01-08 12:04:43 (edited)
PM Wicked One or make a post in this thread to join.

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Founder
Wicked One #42740


Supporters
Wicked One #42740
Tawny 𓆏 #53822
Luciel #50903
BlizzardOfDeath #51723
Oleander #33719
✨Tea✨ #52534
Chipper 🦊🎨 #50444
Nerahsi #54166
duathaur 🐾 #3827


Discord
Rules & Invite Link
Thanks Luciel!

Wicked One (TFP Leader)
#42740

Posted 2022-01-08 12:05:02 (edited)

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Clan Discounted Studs
Enki
[1 refunded breeding per clan member]
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📖 Terrance 💫
[100SC refunded for clan members - read stud rules]
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Wicked One (TFP Leader)
#42740

Posted 2022-01-09 02:08:09 (edited)

ᴀɴɴᴏᴜɴᴄᴇᴍᴇɴᴛꜱ



Market post is up! Post or PM if you'd like to add your stud, shop, or breeding project to it.

There is now a discord server! See the rules and invite link here!

Wicked One (TFP Leader)
#42740

Posted 2022-01-09 02:12:05 (edited)
Happy to be a part of the clan!
I think this is more than reasonable, I can't get my head around wolves losing value past a certain generation, it's just so arbitrary to me.
I can understand the dislike of inbreeding from a moral standpoint, but as something that does occur in the wild, and has no consequences in game I don't understand why it's such a point of contention.

/JUST TO CLARIFY/ I do not condone inbreeding/incest irl. Just wanting to play a game without consequences.

𝕋𝕒𝕨𝕟𝕪 𓆏
#53822

Posted 2022-01-09 02:21:35
The situation is the same on Lioden, but it's definitely not as dire. On lioden the prices don't lower that much if it has a high gen, but it definitely does, as well as with inbreeding. The idea behind people disliking inbreeding is because, pardon my language, it's incest. Although, it has literally saved hundreds of species from extinction; including our OWN, humanity.

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Games like Flight Rising don't actually allow inbreeding, so the market is entirely stable inbreeding and heritage-wise. You can't view the heritage as far as I know, you can only see the parents.

Inbreeding is entirely natural, so there is no excuse for it lowering our wolves value; and not gonna lie, the prices in wolvden is fucked at the moment. Lioden's market took years to stabilise and the worth of things have significantly dropped recently, especially hybrids like gons; this is mainly due to wolvden, as everyone has moved here to give it a try.

Clean breeding is fine, but inbreeding should have no effect on the market whatsoever. People clean breed as it's a challenge, but making it so the worth in wolves, or lions, lower due to a heritage is disgusting ^^

Herne
#50903

Posted 2022-01-09 02:28:11 (edited)
That's how I feel. If you want your wolves to have totally pure, clean lines, then that should be a challenge for YOU and not up to the rest of the community to accommodate it and make it easier. Y'know? It's fine to not like it and not participate in it, but I think there are too many people currently who are rolling with the stigma in order to keep their wolves valuable even though they personally don't care at all! It's just bizarre

Would you like to be added to the member list Luciel?

Wicked One (TFP Leader)
#42740

Posted 2022-01-09 03:18:05
Sure, that would be lovely.
if you need help with a discord server being made [if you want it], you can always DM me at Rufus#3229 or join the DLC here to take inspiration: https://discord.gg/ZuTA8EypZm

Herne
#50903

Posted 2022-01-09 03:49:15
I already know I won't be able to handle running a discord server for this clan. If you or anyone else would like to make one you're entirely welcome to, ofc! I'm just SUPER flaky about responding to messages and pings on discord so I wouldn't be a good server admin

Wicked One (TFP Leader)
#42740

Posted 2022-01-09 03:52:10
I can totally make one where people will get warned for pinging or DMing you directly, so it would just be a hang-out thing for you, of course you'd have the proper roles of founder/owner and I'd just have the admin/head admin role depending on which you'd like to give ^^

Herne
#50903

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