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Small EXP gain for losing battles

Small EXP gain for losing battles
Posted 2020-11-10 14:49:47 (edited)

lately, as i've tried to work at leveling my main wolf up, i've run into one major frustration: the setbacks of losing a fight. 

i know many people will say that its realistic to not gain anything from losing a battle, however when you're within 1hp of winning a battle and you still lose (after burning through your whole full health bar), well......... Its painful, thats for sure. 

then you're faced with the aftermath of either:

A. using tons of healing items to get back up to speed and NOT die again (and its very easy to run out of heals when battle rng is not in your favor)

B. spend sometimes hours trying for random events that boost your health again (with the possibility of the same exact useless death happening immediately after)

i've come to absolutely dread the leveling grind because of how many times i feel like i wasted time and energy fighting and losing battles for 0 gain. 

i would like to suggest that losing a battle can still award a fraction of EXP, possibly scaled by how much health you lost in the fight. Literally anything would feel better than having to stare at the useless "defeated" screen, with all your health zapped.

there could even be rare opportunities to gain a stat point in your weakest stat or something!

flavor text for these gains could be along the lines of: "What were you thinking in this fight? Well, at least you've learned from your mistakes. Hopefully."

thanks for reading!


Queijac
#11333

Posted 2020-11-10 15:01:02

Support, it makes sense that losing battles would give you experience.


Nika
#10475

Posted 2020-11-10 15:05:24

Support! Even if it's as marginal as 10-50 exp. or so. :3 Even with losing, you still battled!


Liara
#20814

Posted 2020-11-10 15:36:05

Support! I already wondered if I should give up on leveling my main guy. I usually only can battle once a day because HP keep runs out -_- It would be nice to get some EXP out of that.

Antonia
#27426

Posted 2020-11-10 16:16:54

Yes!

(I first misread this as losing EXP and I was like "omg whaaaat").

I have also noticed the severe penalties for losing and it's kinda sad. I'd suggest a calculation that takes account of 3 factors:

  • How long you stuck out the fight for (if you duck before losing half your health, you shouldn't get a reward! But if you stick it out to the last ~25% of your health, then you've clearly given it a good go).
  • How much of the opponent's health you took off (so you can't game the system) - more EXP if you got them closer to death!
  • The EXP the opponent would've awarded if you'd won.

Maybe with a maximum yield of 30% of the "full total" (what you could've got if you'd won)


Kiwi (Hiatus)
#7317

Posted 2020-11-10 17:08:20

@kiwi those are super good ideas!!


Queijac
#11333

Posted 2020-11-10 17:17:43

Support! It doesn't need to be a lot but earning some exp makes sense. 


Kahvinporo
#489

Posted 2020-11-11 03:17:45

Support! I would actually love this idea, and it makes sense! However, I feel like this should only apply if you've lost at least 10 points of HP or you were defeated with 0 hp instead of just running. Otherwise people could just enter > retreat battles constantly to like,, farm exp?

@Kiwi's ideas are all good, so I agree with those! c:  Although I feel it would be most fair if it only happened when you got down to 0 HP instead of just when you retreated after losing just some health. But that's just my opinion lol. <3


︴▹ speedyscout 🏔️
#22155

Posted 2020-11-11 03:20:52

So much support oh my goodness.

The level grind is hard enough to find enemies in your level range most of the time, then when you lose its just like... you wasted that HP AND energy. I think the systems suggested where you gain exp even on a loss based on your contribution to the fight is an incredible idea. ;v;


Ishira
#22878

Posted 2020-11-11 12:39:14

I definently support this.

Considering how slow and painful it is to get that health back without sacrificing huge amounts of potential SC you should definently get some exp back.

Aelin
#27553

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