Re: Planned Herbalist Changes

Re: Planned Herbalist Changes
Posted 2023-11-03 22:53:02 #1087812 Since the News topic was locked, I didn't know where else to put my thoughts in a visible manner. If this is the wrong place, I apologize. I was on a hiatus and could not weigh in when the topic was open. Herbalist Changes Stat gain both Wisdom and Smarts. Allowing 2 Herbalists minimum would already fix the Gathering vs Mixing issue. Do not remove healing item crafting from Herbalist role - as stated above, it becomes unnecessary with 2 or more Herbalists. Damaged herbs and failed potions would have to have a reasonable use, or they're just unnecessary inventory bloat. Full energy foraging is 100% fine. It would be great to have an option to forage for a set of specific herbs with the caveat of it taking longer - could tie this to proficiency. Would be lovely to be able to forage other biomes. One more time: keep medicine crafting under the Herbalist role! Alchemist as a new role addition In general, personally I'm not against this, however I think "alchemist" as a role doesn't make sense when it comes to healing. I think Alchemist could do something else. Here's some footnotes. Buffs and Debuffs Could be battle focused. Buffs would affect the Lead Wolf and it's battling, Debuffs would affect the opponent being battled. Option to use during battle, either like a starter move or like Lucky Feet. Should likely only apply Buff or debuff, and not both. Could come in tiers: affecting one stat, affecting two stats, affecting three stats. Could have Buffs/Debuffs to affect bleeding chances etc. To be very wild, could have Alchemy Concoctions that affect things like reward drop chances: SC, Battle Trophies, Stats, specific Stats. These would likely be considered Special Alchemy Concoctions. Buffs/Debuffs would only affect the battle it is used in. Rarer Alchemy Concoctions could be taught to the Alchemist via recipes, if a limit to more specialized stuff is desired. These could be things like (for example) "Higher chance to attract NBWs" type of recipe for Explore, bought during the Valentines event. However, "basic" recipes should be learnable otherwise. Materials for Alchemy would partially overlap with the Herbalist's role, by utilizing some herbs. However, being a more "mystical" role, the Alchemist would likely also utilize Remnants, like bones, feathers, etc. Alchemy crafting menu should definitely have tabs for different Alchemy Concoction categories for ease of viewing. Alchemy Concoctions for Exploring It would make sense to have Concoctions that affect Exploring. Likely would have a Step limit, or Energy limit, before effect wears off. Alternatively time limit, however I think Step or Energy limit is more fair and removes "pay to win" frustrations. Concoctions could affect things like - Chance of meeting enemies/specific type of enemies (hoofed, canince, etc.), enemy levels (both up and down), chance to regain energy per step (should not be too high and not too much). Alchemy Concoctions could possibly also be made for other roles. Hunting (whole team, applied when starting a hunt) - hunt success boost, injury chance modifiers, Battle Trophy drop chance (likely low). Only one Concoction per hunt. Herbalist (Applied when sent to Forage or sent to Mix Medicines) - Herb count modifier, rare herb chance modifier, time for Gathering/Mixing, energy restore upon finishing Gathering Mixing (partial!) Scouting (Applied when sending a Scout to open a biome or the rescout) - Extra items, rarer items, Battle Trophy chance, Chance to bring a NBW (normal NBW rarity chances apply + talent if applicable), time spent modifier, biome unlocked modifier, energy restore upon finishing. Mentors (Applied per lesson) - session length modifier, boosted EXP to mentor, boosted pup stat gain. Pupsitters (Not sure how to Apply this - Maybe daily? But that's a LOT of application. Per pup selection?) - Exp gain, stat gain? I know I'm vague on this one. And of course, Decoration Alchemy related decor recipes could be found during Alchemy crafting. Again, if this is inappropriate location for my Extended Thoughts on the topic of the proposed Herbalist changes and the addition of the Alchemist role, I apologize.	Ihmislehma #1850

Posted 2023-11-03 22:53:02

#1087812

Since the News topic was locked, I didn't know where else to put my thoughts in a visible manner. If this is the wrong place, I apologize. I was on a hiatus and could not weigh in when the topic was open.

Herbalist Changes

Stat gain both Wisdom and Smarts.

Allowing 2 Herbalists minimum would already fix the Gathering vs Mixing issue.

Do not remove healing item crafting from Herbalist role - as stated above, it becomes unnecessary with 2 or more Herbalists.

Damaged herbs and failed potions would have to have a reasonable use, or they're just unnecessary inventory bloat.

Full energy foraging is 100% fine.

It would be great to have an option to forage for a set of specific herbs with the caveat of it taking longer - could tie this to proficiency.

Would be lovely to be able to forage other biomes.

One more time: keep medicine crafting under the Herbalist role!

Alchemist as a new role addition
In general, personally I'm not against this, however I think "alchemist" as a role doesn't make sense when it comes to healing. I think Alchemist could do something else. Here's some footnotes.

Buffs and Debuffs
Could be battle focused. Buffs would affect the Lead Wolf and it's battling, Debuffs would affect the opponent being battled. Option to use during battle, either like a starter move or like Lucky Feet. Should likely only apply Buff or debuff, and not both.

Could come in tiers: affecting one stat, affecting two stats, affecting three stats. Could have Buffs/Debuffs to affect bleeding chances etc. To be very wild, could have Alchemy Concoctions that affect things like reward drop chances: SC, Battle Trophies, Stats, specific Stats. These would likely be considered Special Alchemy Concoctions.
Buffs/Debuffs would only affect the battle it is used in.

Rarer Alchemy Concoctions could be taught to the Alchemist via recipes, if a limit to more specialized stuff is desired. These could be things like (for example) "Higher chance to attract NBWs" type of recipe for Explore, bought during the Valentines event. However, "basic" recipes should be learnable otherwise.

Materials for Alchemy would partially overlap with the Herbalist's role, by utilizing some herbs. However, being a more "mystical" role, the Alchemist would likely also utilize Remnants, like bones, feathers, etc.

Alchemy crafting menu should definitely have tabs for different Alchemy Concoction categories for ease of viewing.

Alchemy Concoctions for Exploring
It would make sense to have Concoctions that affect Exploring. Likely would have a Step limit, or Energy limit, before effect wears off. Alternatively time limit, however I think Step or Energy limit is more fair and removes "pay to win" frustrations.
Concoctions could affect things like
- Chance of meeting enemies/specific type of enemies (hoofed, canince, etc.), enemy levels (both up and down), chance to regain energy per step (should not be too high and not too much).

Alchemy Concoctions could possibly also be made for other roles.
Hunting (whole team, applied when starting a hunt) - hunt success boost, injury chance modifiers, Battle Trophy drop chance (likely low). Only one Concoction per hunt.
Herbalist (Applied when sent to Forage or sent to Mix Medicines) - Herb count modifier, rare herb chance modifier, time for Gathering/Mixing, energy restore upon finishing Gathering Mixing (partial!)
Scouting (Applied when sending a Scout to open a biome or the rescout) - Extra items, rarer items, Battle Trophy chance, Chance to bring a NBW (normal NBW rarity chances apply + talent if applicable), time spent modifier, biome unlocked modifier, energy restore upon finishing.
Mentors (Applied per lesson) - session length modifier, boosted EXP to mentor, boosted pup stat gain.
Pupsitters (Not sure how to Apply this - Maybe daily? But that's a LOT of application. Per pup selection?) - Exp gain, stat gain? I know I'm vague on this one.

And of course, Decoration
Alchemy related decor recipes could be found during Alchemy crafting.

Again, if this is inappropriate location for my Extended Thoughts on the topic of the proposed Herbalist changes and the addition of the Alchemist role, I apologize.

Ihmislehma
#1850

Posted 2023-12-09 06:56:10

#1112343

I actually really like all of your thoughts on an Alchemy role. I think it would work well without taking away from the importance of an herbalist!

🐺Kai🐺
#1054

Posted 2023-12-09 11:08:14

#1112482

Thank you! I wanted to think of Fun and Useful things ^^

Ihmislehma
#1850

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