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Patches/Piebald Breeding Results - Contribute yours for rewards!

Patches/Piebald Breeding Results - Contribute yours for rewards!
Posted 2023-03-23 21:22:10 (edited)
Heya!

I'd like to try to figure out more exact pass rates for Patches and Piebald since I see a lot of numbers thrown around, I think it will be useful to have something concrete!

What I'm looking for…

Breedings between:
Patches x Piebald
Piebald x Piebald of the same type
Piebald x Piebald of different types
Patches x Patches of the same type
Patches x Patches of different types
Piebald (any) x Wolf with no mutations
Patches (any) x Wolf with no mutations

I want your results even if you didn't get any piebald pups from the litter- that's how we'll make sure the numbers are accurate!

How to share results…

In order to ensure the most accuracy with data, there's a few requirements when you make a post:

- Links to both of the parents
- Exact list of all pups, with links if they're all still alive, letting me know if they have piebald/patches or not
- The breeding must be RECENT, as in the pups are still nursing or pre-adolescence
- Piebald/patches was NOT applied to any of the pups, and was applied to either parent BEFORE the breeding
- Please do not share information just from breedings that resulted in piebald. I want to hear about breeding that gave no piebalds too.
- If you used a Wolf Scrotum or Wolf Blood in the breeding, please include that in your post as that will skew your results.

Reward?

I thought I could make a sort of game from it..
So every 5 breeding results you provide will get you 1 GC!

Again, recent breedings only please! These are the easiest for me to double check myself.


Results
I'm keeping track of everyone's results in two spreadsheets.

This spreadsheet contains summarized results from every breeding. Here you will find general numbers for Piebald x Piebald, Piebald x Patches, etc.
This spreadsheet contains all results in detail, with the exact mutation of the parents specified.


Current percentages gathered from provided data are listed below. While these spreadsheets do provide percentages, please note that I would not consider the percentages close to an accurate pass rate until the breeding type has at least 1000 pups recorded.

Piebald x Piebald of Same Type: 183 pups with 22.95% chance of piebald - much more data needed!
Piebald x Piebald of Different Type: 118 pups with 4.24% chance of mother's piebald and 3.39% chance of father's piebald - much more data needed!
Patches x Patches of Same Type: Not enough data
Patches x Patches of Different Type: Not enough data
Piebald x Patches: Not enough data
Piebald x No Mutation: 1554 pups with 3.73% chance of piebald
Patches x No Mutation: Not enough data
Mel 🏜️
#201

Posted 2023-03-24 23:35:00
These might not be recent enough, but here y'are. I keep records of literally EVERY breeding I do, so I have stuff from a fair while back.
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Breeding 1:
Bred Jan 17. Mom, Light blank on mutations, Dad, Neptune = Pie: Uneven.
2 Pups, 1 pie, Reed, 1 plain, Honey.
Personal Spreadsheet This link shouldn't work for anyone else, it's just for me personally.
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Breeding 2:
Bred Feb 22
Mom, Reed was an Uneven Piebald, and Dad, Nezumi was also an Uneven Piebald.
They made 4 pups, all of whom were disappointments, I didn't keep any of them, but i promise you none of them had piebald and that the litter size was 4. Extensive records.
Personal Spreadsheet
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Breeding 3:
Bred Mar 3
Mom, Soft,was a normie as far as mutations. Dad, Quinn, is Piebald: Torn
3 Pup litter, 2 blank, 1 Piebald: Torn. The only one alive currently is the Piebald Baby, Coig.
Personal Spreadsheet

JDoggyGirl (NC)
#106775

Posted 2023-04-05 07:11:19
These ones are recent, so almost all of the pups are alive. Because you specifically asked for recent ones, you don't have to count the ones before this towards the reward thingy. I would have helped even without the reward though.    :)
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Breeding 4:
Bred Mar 25
Mom, Mannequin, is blank on mutations, and Dad, Kiora, is Piebald: Torn. There were 4 pups, and none of them were pie. As of typing this, they are still nursing at 1M. Here are the links.
Smog, Six, Sleek, Filthy.
Personal Spreadsheet. Again, none of the personal spreadsheet links should work for anyone else. They are links to the spreadsheet where I keep track of my breedings, to the specific place I logged this specific litter.
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Breeding 5:
Bred Mar 26
Mom, Reed, is a Piebald: Uneven, and Dad, Ya Zi, is a Piebald: Torn. They had 5 pups. One was Piebald: Torn. The others were plain. All are still nursing at 1/2 month old.
Firehouse (blank), Nuo (who I chased, also blank), Marmalade has Piebald: Torn! There was Native (who I also chased, blank),  and Mystery, also blank.

JDoggyGirl (NC)
#106775

Posted 2023-04-05 15:01:05
Thank you :D I sent over your prize for 5 breeding results!

I also added a spreadsheet to the first post to keep track of everyone's data!
Mel 🏜️
#201

Posted 2023-04-05 16:05:11 (edited)
Uneven x Uneven:
mother father
Gave birth 4/2: 2 pups, no pie for either. IDs: 7210979(no pie), 7210980 (dead - no pie)

Torn vs. No pie:
mother father
Gave birth 3/25: 3 pups, 2 pies. IDs: 7148856(pie), 7148857(pie), 7148858 (dead - no pie)

Shadow
#9999

Posted 2023-04-05 16:54:35
Uneven x Non-Pie [TIII]
Mother x Father
Gave birth on 3/24 to 4 pups, IDs: 7142686, 7142687, 7142688, 7142689
All No Pie - and sorry I already chased the two duddier ones

I have an Uneven x Uneven pairing, they've bred only 2 times so far resulting in only 5 pups total, 2 being Uneven. Not sure if they're recent enough

Uneven x Uneven
Mother x Father
First litter: Born on 2/17 to 2 pups: IDs: 6839667(Uneven Pie), 6839668 (no pie)

Second Litter: Born 3/14 to 3 pups: IDs: 7052081(no pie), 7052082(Uneven Pie), 7052083(no pie)

❀・愛》 JuneJuniper《花・❀
#892

Posted 2023-04-06 00:36:50
Breeding 1:
Mother Atra (no pie) x Father Yami 闇 🌌
Pup born 6.April
No Pie (no pie)

Breeding 2:
Mother Aira x Father Call the Stars -selfish (pie Uneven)
Pups born 6. April
Piebald Uneven, No Pie, No Pie, No Pie, No Pie

Breeding 3:
Mother Eleyn x Father Call the Stars -selfish (pie Uneven)
Pups Born 6. April
No Pie, No Pie, Pie Uneven
🌷Trey🐛🦋
#73629

Posted 2023-04-06 03:22:41
It's difficult to me to give unbiased samples on piebald breedings since if I were to pick for example all breedings to Stahlhast where I got a piebald pup myself, it would be a biased decision as I could have remembered Stahlhast as piebald mainly because of giving me that piebald pup, it would disregard all piebald studs I have bred before. And even taking all piebald studs into consideration - some pups may have been gone and which pups were gone would have depended whether these were piebald.

In order to provide completely unbiased samples, I'll send females to piebald studs from time to time and register pregnant wolves that have bred to these studs. This way, once they're given birth, I can share data about the litter that you may insert without any doubts.

Dżanek
#24018

Posted 2023-04-06 03:23:59
Also, there's sample #1 - non-piebald wolf bred to uneven piebald stud.

Dżanek
#24018

Posted 2023-04-06 06:19:34
Mother Maiden (Non Pie) x Father Force Majeure (Piebald: Torn)

Resulted in 5 pups: 3 non pies, 2 piebald: torn.
Non Pie 1
Non Pie 2
Non Pie 3
Piebald: Torn 1
Piebald: Torn 2

Tiroxina
#90668

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